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Justin Stoddart
Hey, welcome back to the Think Bigger Real Estate Show. I’m your host, Justin Stoddart. I’m fired up excited about this opportunity. It’s one that I’ve anticipated for a long, long time.

Justin Stoddart
That torso that you’re seeing right there, that is the torso of THE Grant Cardone, I’m going to jump in here to introducing him here in just a minute. But this gentleman,

Justin Stoddart
let me just start by saying this–the passion and purpose of this show the Think Bigger Real Estate Show is to help you think bigger. It’s help you to have a life of significance.

Justin Stoddart
Everyday Grant shows up in my newsfeed telling me that most people live a life that’s just okay.

Justin Stoddart
It’s just average. And you know, the recipe for changing your life, the recipe for changing who you are,

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what your family tree looks like, and the impact that you have in this world isn’t that complicated.

Justin Stoddart
You know, it starts off this bookshelf behind me, which has a number of Grant’s books on it,

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is a reflection of how it all begins. We have access to the best ideas. We live in the most amazing time in

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the history of the world where we can find people that are achieving at the highest levels and we can

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have conversations with them. We can have them in our car by listening to their podcasts.

Justin Stoddart
Now, in addition to that, you can take a next step further and you can start to get closer to these people.

Justin Stoddart
I had the great privilege of being a part of having Grant come and speak to a big audience.

Justin Stoddart
It’s been about a year and a half ago, Old Republic Title, and he wowed the crowd.

Justin Stoddart
We’re still talking about the impact that he’s had upon us.

Grant Cardone
I don’t know why you guys haven’t had me back. That’s the sad part of that deal.

Grant Cardone
I don’t know why a group that successful would do something, they know it worked, and then not repeat it again.

Justin Stoddart
Well, this is a probably a great segue into that. I’m sure that the people that I work for Grant, they’re going to be seeing this and this will be a great commercial.

Grant Cardone
I loved being there. I love that audience. I love the way the think was. That company has proven itself

Grant Cardone
for so long and has continued to transform itself. I thought we were going to do some big stuff together.

Justin Stoddart
Well, let’s get that started. Let’s kick that back off. So the impact that Grant’s had upon me has been massive.

Justin Stoddart
This TB behind me here stands for Think Bigger, in part because I read Grant’s book, you know, the 10X Rule.

Justin Stoddart
I read that three or four times and its impacted me in incredible ways.

Justin Stoddart
And now I’ve got the great privilege of having Grant come on to the Think Bigger Real Estate Show

Justin Stoddart
and inspire all of us to think bigger. Here’s the thing that is really inspiring…

Justin Stoddart
Grant looks like you’re in a hotel room, right? You see, Grant streams from all over the world and you can

Justin Stoddart
kind of tell like, when he’s at his home. He’s got his family around him and when he’s not you can tell and

Justin Stoddart
this environment here didn’t look like his home. Grant where you at?

Justin Stoddart
So Grant, tell us where you’re at right now, which is gonna inspire each and every one of us.

Grant Cardone
Yes, so I’m at my church right now. I spent the last five days doing services here working on me and my

Grant Cardone
you know, my blind spots. Like what don’t I know? What can I learn? Like, I’ve seen so many people

Grant Cardone
reach or get to where I’m at particularly in the self, the self help the self improvement space where guys

Grant Cardone
are doing educational stuff. I mean I’m literally thinking about their names in my mind right now

Grant Cardone
guys that are living guys that aren’t living. I mean BIG giant individuals that have had tremendous success

Grant Cardone
and legend kind of lifestyles, right? And some of these guys most of these guys actually quit learning.

Grant Cardone
They quit being a student…. and, and so there’s one of my little girls right there and and, you know,

Grant Cardone
studying people that I’ve, either been able to read their books or like when I read somebody’s book.

Grant Cardone
The other thing I do is I study their life, like what’s really going on not just at the bank or on the bookshelf.

Grant Cardone
But you know, in their life, okay. And and their whole life. What was it? Like? I mean, did they just catch up?

Grant Cardone
You know, one guy gets a TV, you know somebody does a TV show about a book he writes and people

Grant Cardone
know about him. But if you look, if you look any deeper than that you just going to see a criminal, he

Grant Cardone
couldn’t pay people, he back stole from people. I don’t want that. That’s not what I want in my life.

Grant Cardone
Yeah. So you got to be careful. You know, I got to be careful to I need to when I look find somebody that

Grant Cardone
is attractive to me to learn from. Even back to Biblical days, like study, who were they really, you know,

Grant Cardone
years ago in college, I was studying a guy that later I found out committed suicide. And I’m like, wait a

Grant Cardone
minute, man. I was collecting data from this cat thinking he was he was the mac-daddy. Yeah. And so

Grant Cardone
something must have been missing. So anyway. I’m here. I’m a student here, like I come here, I’m not

Grant Cardone
leading, I’m not educating I’m not doing, you know, seminar. I’m just here to learn.

Justin Stoddart
You’re learning. It’s interesting. I am in the process of reading a book called, “How Will You Measure Your Life”

Justin Stoddart
and it reminds me a lot of what you’re saying. Clayton Christensen, the author, he talks about, he

Justin Stoddart
graduated from Harvard with some of the brightest minds in the world, came back 10 years later, and like,

Justin Stoddart
some of the most intelligent ones were in jail, like one of them was the CEO of Enron. Sometimes guys

Justin Stoddart
have success at the highest levels, but they give it all up and I love the fact that you’re continuing to be a

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student and looking for your blind spots. And, you know, nourishing your soul, not just your mind.

Justin Stoddart
It’s powerful for all of us to to keep our moral compass at the same time that we’re going 10X with our business, right?

Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Because it’s easy. It’s easy, you know, it’s easy like you get, you know, you’re hustling, you’re working.

Grant Cardone
If you get a little you get a deal. You close the deal. Then you close the second deal and then next thing

Grant Cardone
you know, you know, you started exaggerate things a little bit or you’re getting a little sloppy or, or you know,

Grant Cardone
or you’re not working as hard. Right? All those for me all those are interruptions in my ethical and moral

Grant Cardone
agreements to myself. You know, the fact that somebody gets financially successful would not be a

Grant Cardone
reason, at least for me to let off the gas. You know, because I’d be thinking about it. Okay, I got mine.

Grant Cardone
Now, I’m going to kick back and because I got mine, that for me was like a huge like, mind boggling… Oh, wow.

Grant Cardone
That’s why, that’s why when I once I had I was in my mid maybe late late 30s. And I had, you know,

Grant Cardone
$2M or $3M or $4 million dollars put away and I quit working and and then I went into depression.

Unknown Speaker
And I thought it was like, money doesn’t make me happy. And the truth was, I was not making a contribution anymore.

Grant Cardone
It had nothing to do with money had nothing to do with success. I quit contributing. And the moment I think that is the most important thing a human being can do is contribute. Whether you’re paid for it or not paid for it, to contribute, to give back, to help. And I had quit contributing. It was it was a violation of my moral code.

Justin Stoddart
I had to go ahead.

Grant Cardone
Yeah, yeah, just my personal code, right. What’s true for me? It was a violation, and it caused me a lot of problems. So that’s what I call the blind spots. You know, you get blind you just can’t see everything. Unless you stop the second. Get get another person may be asking you the right questions. taking some time, I’m not talking about meditation here. I’m talking about taking some time to actually inventory what’s going on in life.

Justin Stoddart
I had one of my professors in college he sold, had a massive company that was acquired. He said, I decided I’m done. He said, I, I got a membership to the country club, told my wife, I said, “Look, my job has been to provide for the family. Your job has been to like, bring up the kids. I’m kind of done early. So, I’m going to spend some time on a golf course.” He’s jokingly saying this, right? But he said it was honestly the most miserable two years of my life. He said, I went back to this to the University where I studied and he said, Can I come work for free? Because he said, I don’t need the money. But he said, I’m like, I’m dying because I’m not contributing, like you said, like,

Grant Cardone
yeah, yeah,

Justin Stoddart
I think I really appreciate this conversation grant. Because you know, someone could look at somebody like you, right? You’ve got the jet, you’ve got like, what else could you want it at the end of the day, even if all of your material needs are taken care of. You’d be miserable if you stopped not because you need another jet. Not because you need a bigger jet. But because you you need to contribute you actually have to think bigger than just business, but actually contribute to the world in bigger ways. Otherwise you’re miserable. You’re miserable on that jet right? You’re the guy that’s on that jet thinking about this life sucks.

Grant Cardone
Yeah, but, but I agree with what you’re saying is like, you know, it’s because some people gonna think like, oh, you’re just not happy, like, like, there’s this whole psychiatric field out there that says, I’m trying to fill some empty hole in me because I can’t be content with what I’ve achieved already. Yeah, that they think I should be happy. But look, nobody else knows what my moral agreement is. And and that’s just a personal thing. It’s not it’s not a religious thing. It’s a personal thing.

Justin Stoddart
Yeah.

Grant Cardone
It’s probably more spiritual than even a religion could be. It’s my personal agreement. Not my mom telling me or my dad or society but my agreement with me–what’s okay. Not my wife, not what she thinks are the kids. This is me. And you know in life no matter how many people you’re surrounded by in life, there are certain things where you’re just alone. And like those kind of agreements, what makes you happy what I don’t like what makes me content is contributing. And, and so whether that was coming to to the Old Republic meeting, and having people say, wow, what am I thinking? Why, why? Why was I thinking to be satisfied? That’s what the 10X, that book was for me. One of the best contributions I’ve made was writing that book even better than that was putting on audio, where I got to actually rif on like I’m doing with you right now on what it what it means to me to 10X and the problems and the situations and handling all that that comes with when you try to expand like that.

Grant Cardone
Yeah, those are the products in the books and the audio programs and the webinars and the speeches and all that stuff that I do. They’re really they’re really ways for me to contribute and hope that people are using that material. Later in life, also I sell those things, just to be completely honest and fair with everybody. Like, I don’t give that stuff away. There are certain countries where we give stuff away because there’s no money in that country. You know, to sell a program for $14 in America, a $14 program’s 10 hours long. We sell you know, I’ve sold millions of those that product, but when I go to Nigeria, I can’t sell that for $14 I need to I need to sell that for like a quarter. Not a quarter of $14, like 25 cents. In their, in their, their money, or I could just give it away. But here’s the problem with just giving somebody something somebody’s problem with giving something away for free is and it’s not the old adage about it, well, if I don’t pay for it, then I’m not going to appreciate it. The issue is when somebody gets something for free, you have put the person in a position where they weren’t able to exchange back with you. So when if I just give you $20, right, the flow went one way. It’s much more powerful if you give me $20. The Giver that’s why they say “Hey, man, it it’s better to give than receive.” And the truth is, it’s better to give than to receive right? You want the flow to be going between two individuals, because it empowers both parties. And so like we go to parts of the world man, there’s no way I go to Mexico, I can’t sell my programs for my coaching is 100 Grand, $100,000, and like, you know, most people in Mexico, some people can buy at the very, very elite of the elite.

Justin Stoddart
What a powerful way for you to change the mindset of an entire nation. I don’t know that you’ll live to recognize, I don’t know that any of us will, but you know, fast forward 500 years from now, and you go back and look at the ripple effect of you helping somebody in some small developing nation to think bigger.

Grant Cardone
Crazy, right? I see Bill Gates doing that. look, look Bill was selling. Bill was I mean, that guy was a grinder, right? He was working. He was either coding or sleeping.

Justin Stoddart
Yeah, he got after it.

Grant Cardone
You know, he builds Microsoft. China’s ripping him off. He goes on TV, if they’re going to steal Microsoft, if they’re going to steal software. I want to make sure they’re stealing Microsoft. That guy was an animal. Okay, when he was building that company, that’s a trillion dollar company today. I think they’re worth $1,049,000,000,000 to some, some ridiculous number, right. But the point of that story is they scaled that product all around the world. He’s not interested in software today. He’s interested in putting plumbing into Africa. And, and that’s what he will be… He’ll be he’ll be remembered for Microsoft. He’ll be remembered for one of the richest people in the world, but he’s also going to be, he’s going to change the planet because of because of how he used his success. And everybody here watching right now has the ability to do that, but you can’t do it, you can’t… I mean, I hate to say this, but you just can’t do it if you don’t have success.

Justin Stoddart
Yes, success leaves that opportunity for greater significance. When it’s you know, a lot of people might criticize someone who’s ever successful to say, “Man, enough is enough.” Whereas for you, so what if Bill Gates would have said that what if, you know, he would have got his millions and got his and stopped and said, “You know what, I don’t want to be greedy enough’s enough.” Look at the look at the countless nations right now and people all over the world that would not be benefiting from his humanitarian efforts because he decided to take his foot off the throttle, listen to the common person that said, “Hey, money is bad, greed is bad, you need to knock it off. You just stop. You’ve got enough stop.”

Grant Cardone
Yeah. His dad was rich. You know, his dad was a doctor and his dad, he grew up a wealthy kid. But I mean, his dad can’t change the planet the way he can. Yeah. And maybe his dad changed the planet by having Bill. You know, I don’t know. I don’t know what’s going on for everybody else. I just got to figure out I gotta look at other people. I like the way Bill leads his life. I like what Bill and Melinda do, right. I like, you know, I like the transformation that guy’s had in his life. I like Warren Buffett. I like the way he He makes his moves.

Grant Cardone
So that’s what I study, people that have had success for long periods of time. It’s really easy with Instagram and Facebook today to be to be, you know, a little bit delusional about, “Oh, wow, he’s got a Lambo, and this guy’s got a jet,” you know? Sometimes I worry that the jet actually puts people off. And they’re like, “I can’t trust that guy because he’s got stuff.” You know, my wife wouldn’t go out with me because I was wealthy. And she didn’t want, she didn’t, she didn’t want other people to think, you know, she’s a gold digger and she also didn’t want people… She thought, okay, “He gets whatever he wants. I’m not going to be one of those women.” So, you know, all that glitters is not is not good for the perception of the audience either,

Justin Stoddart
Right. But when the success leads to significance, right when, when you can take the success and keep your foot on the gas, not to build another statue to yourself, but to build, to help somebody rise up to help some to contribute back to your original theme of “I’m here growing not because I need more but because I need to contribute more.” And the second that you stop with the foot down, then there are how many millions of people that aren’t going to be impacted because you decided to limit your reach?

Grant Cardone
Yeah.

Justin Stoddart
That’s a powerful live.

Grant Cardone
You know, it’s still learning about yourself still, you know, getting educated, not just telling people they should invest in themselves, but continuing to invest in myself. My whole family, like, we just want to be better, man. I want… and I can’t be better if I don’t know what I don’t know. Yeah, so you got to know what you don’t know and the other the only way to do that many times is to get a coach or a mentor to get somebody to help you and sit down and say, “Okay, what’s going on here? What’s going on there?” Like, spend a second getting another person’s look at and even programming. How can I get programmed to undo some of this stuff that I’ve been doing for years. Once you get into a rut of doing something like you need some help unwinding that and for me many times that takes it another set of eyes.

Justin Stoddart
I actually had a guest on recently that talked about these ruts that we create in our brains through habits, you know, we often times think of it like people that are addicted to drugs, people that are addicted to alcohol, that’s that problem magnified, but all of us are very similar, that our brains are wired, I think, as an effort to expend the least amount of energy, to just do things habitually. And sometimes, those habitual activities are actually not beneficial to us. And they actually cause us to end up somewhere we don’t want to end up.

Grant Cardone
Yeah, they worked at one time, right? Yeah, there can be things that are good for you that were good for you at one point in time but at some point you got to elevate the game and the moment you do, you need a new coach, a new mentor. You need somebody else to look at “Hey, what is it I’m missing out on?” You know, for me to make a couple million dollars is one thing. I mean, just if you just think about stacking money.

Justin Stoddart
Sure.

Grant Cardone
It could be bricks, it could be money it could be houses, apartments, it could be closings could be whatever, manufacturing. You can do a couple million sets but when you start thinking okay now I’m going to go to to 2 billion. You know, I wear, I got the shirt billionaire in the making right? It’s not really about money? It could be but when you start thinking about creating, like adding zeros, oh man, everything changes. What you know, your limitations, your resources, how you lead people. You can’t manage everybody anymore. The whole game changes

Justin Stoddart
Yeah I’ve heard people that have been have achieved massive amounts of success, maybe you can validate this for us, you get to a point where you’ve got enough. You can’t spend the money as fast as it’s coming in, with what you’ve got going on. How much can you really spend on lifestyle? But, the man that you’re becoming. To become a billionaire, like what you’re saying, the billions don’t matter, but who do I have to become, how many people do I need to be leading how many people do I need to be contributing to in order for me to be a billionaire. That’s what people miss, right? I think where people get off track being like, “A billionaire, you greedy SOB!”

Grant Cardone
It doesn’t have to be about a billion dollars either. Drop the money thing and start thinking about scale and orders of magnitude. What would it take for somebody to meet to have your name known with a billion people, one seventh of the planet. Okay, forget the money, like drop the money gold watches, cars, jets drop all that. You don’t need that. Now, you’ll actually need all that to actually get to a billion people, but Mother Teresa didn’t need all that, but somebody, somebody funded that project.

Justin Stoddart
Getting her name out, yes.

Grant Cardone
And so you know, if you have a product let’s say you have a dress, I don’t know new a stretch pant or whatever, right? A hat that is going to transform the world. You need a lot of people using that product. I don’t know how many cups of Starbucks are sold every day. I imagine it’s in the hundreds of millions. And that kind of impact, you’re talking about global impact. You’re talking about literally permeating society with either a really, really good idea, or really, really bad that’s not good for people.

Justin Stoddart
So to take one that causes people to think bigger, and I think, you know, for me the quest of a lifetime is helping people to see the potential this within them, you know, I mean, that’s in part what I want to thank you for. What a pleasure it is to be able to do this in this format to say “Grant,” like look you in the eye and say, “Grant, thank you. The words that you wrote in a book that probably weren’t very fun to write at the time,” I mean, writing the book is difficult, you know, “the things that you’ve said on social media over and over have started to permeate me to help me to see myself differently, to realize like, you know what, I can really have a big impact.”

Justin Stoddart
And I think, for me, it’s to start to recognize that potential, which for me at the core is spiritual, right? That like, I’m literally offspring of Divinity. like that’s a big deal.

Grant Cardone
That’s right.

Justin Stoddart
That an acorn can become a tree, like there’s big vision there. But even then taking it back to this business world in which we which we live, is that, you know, you can have a big impact. And people start to realize, again, it’s not about the money. It’s about “How many people can I serve? How many people can I lead?”

Justin Stoddart
People need leadership right now. And again, I want to thank you, for being somebody who was willing to sacrifice. I’m sure your family’s felt massive amounts of sacrifice, of times when you weren’t there, when you would rather have been there, that you were off speaking at an event, or you’re working on a book or you were working on a new product, and because you were willing to do that, so many of us are better people, we see ourselves differently. We now show up in the world differently. You know, we now have the ability, this ripple effect, to be able to impact the world in a different way. So, I want to thank you for that. Like, genuinely.

Grant Cardone
You’re welcome. And there’s a lot of people saying 10X right now.

Justin Stoddart
Yeah.

Grant Cardone
Like we just finished. We I think we went to 17 countries. 10X, people all over the world know about 10X. So we landed in Malta. I didn’t even know about Malta. Malta is a little island south of Sicily. We landed it 1230 at night with no plans. We were in London getting ready to come home, go home, to Miami and we diverted the flight to to a place called Malta. I literally took out a map and said boom, wherever I land my finger, we’re gonna go. The nearest place. I was in my finger landed in the middle of the ocean. And I’m like, okay, we can’t land there, because you can only do that once. So what’s the next nearest thing and like an inch away was a place called Malta?

Justin Stoddart
Ha, an inch.

Grant Cardone
We landed there 1230 at night, I put one thing up on Instagram. Hey, we’re going to go to Malta. There was five people showed up at the airport. Well, 12:30 am.

Justin Stoddart
That’s amazing. In Malta.

Grant Cardone
Yeah, so you know people need mentorship and people need guidance. People need coaches. I’m getting ready to launch a coaching program in two Saturdays, not not this one, but the following and I think the website GrantCardone.com/mentor you can register for free and I’m gonna talk about when you get a mentor or coach, what do you need to ask that person? How do you take advantage of them? You know, how can you, the things you don’t want to do when you’re with them, because that’s really, me and Damon John were talking about that last week. He’s like, most people want help from me, they don’t even know what to ask me. And that’s what got me thinking about doing this. Because look, it’s like going to the range of the golf course. You still got to know what you’re trying to accomplish. Otherwise, you’re just going to groove in bad habits.

Justin Stoddart
Right

Grant Cardone
And and so I’m going to be sharing what I learned from: what do I ask, what do I want to know, how do I tap in, how do I not waste their time? How do I maximize and how do I show that coach that mentor that I’m being successful, because here’s a little trick, if you get around somebody that’s actually willing to share their time with you, not they’re just their money. Because they’re not going to give you money, it’s just not going to happen. What they want, is they want to see their influence on you, made a difference. And this is what I didn’t know, when somebody sees when a coach, teacher and educator when they see a kid, or whatever age person respond to the therapy, as opposed to three people that didn’t do it did they’re so interested in this guy because this guy becomes a product of their coaching. And that is the ultimate way to get more attention from a coach or mentor is to show them hey, you did just what you’re saying right now like you you inspired me so much to do more of what I do because you said, “Hey, Grant, you have a ripple effect going on.” And when that happens, I want to give more attention to the people that… it’s like a quarterback. Tom Brady, Tom… I thought TB stood for Tom Brady… but Tom Brady is going to go to the guy he trusts to catch that ball

Justin Stoddart
Yeah.

Grant Cardone
And a coach, a good coach, does not mind helping somebody that is going to say “Hey, I’m going to show you that I’m gonna make this successful.”

Justin Stoddart
Yeah, the greatest payment that that any coach could receive is what I hear you saying, which is “Do something with it!” Right?

Grant Cardone
Yeah, yeah…

Justin Stoddart
Pay your coaching bill, sure, but do something with it. Right?

Grant Cardone
Yeah.

Justin Stoddart
Go be somebody! Go impact!

Grant Cardone
Be an example of the lesson.

Justin Stoddart
Yeah.

Grant Cardone
That’s the product. The product is for me is when I help people. I mean, okay, “Yeah, I got some money out of the big deal. Like, what I want, my ultimate payday is that somebody would say something that I somehow contributed. This goes back to what I was saying earlier, contribution is the ultimate, the Holy Grail of all payment programs.

Justin Stoddart
Yeah.

Grant Cardone
And it doesn’t happen at Amazon. It doesn’t happen in a job. It’s, I make a contribution, made a difference, it’s a good contribution, not a bad negative contribution and the world’s better for it. Maybe the world, maybe the one person, maybe if one person benefited, that’s good enough. But man, if one person could benefit, then you feel an obligation to say, “Hey, how can I help millions of people?”

Justin Stoddart
Yeah. Which is really what you’ve done with all of us, right? It’s helped us to see like, “Hey, your impact doesn’t have to be in that small little quadrant in which you live.” I mean, it’s really the inspiration for the Think Bigger Real Estate Show, right? Is that there’s a lot of really great people in the world and if at minimum, if I just get them to pour into me every day, I’m going to show up at home, I’m going to show up at work, I’m gonna show up with my customers a lot better. But then you also start to realize what if I were to broadcast these conversations and hopefully impact even more people. Which, why not? Let’s go LIVE every day. Let’s Share what I am learning with other people, so thank you for that. You’re making this possible.

Grant Cardone
You’re welcome.

Justin Stoddart
Good stuff, man. Hey, so anybody that’s listening here, Grant Cardone.com/mentor. I want you to pay close attention to what Grant is saying here. Again, he’s reached massive levels of success, yet he’s got his foot on the pedal because now it’s about contribution. That’s what he’s about. And it’s really fun to hear about the people that you’re studying from. Bill and Melinda Gates, Warren Buffett… these people that have continued to have great success yet at the same time, have massive lives of contribution and you’ve been doing that all along. It’s fun to hear that that’s the big picture for you as well.

Grant Cardone
Yeah, tomorrow I’m gonna go spend time with Tim Draper tomorrow. I don’t know if you know Tim is but he’s a billionaire and I’m so I’m gonna spend three hours with him and see, you know, what can we do with each other? I mean, the beautiful thing about once you get a little bit of success, and particularly recognition. It’s not just financial success, it’s like okay, what’s he doing? On Friday I’m interviewing Sylvester Stallone in front of 1000 people.

Justin Stoddart
So cool.

Grant Cardone
So before before Stallone accepts that he goes, and somebody in his group is going to be like “Who is the dude?”

Justin Stoddart
Yeah.

Grant Cardone
Because they don’t want it to go bad on Rocky, man. So you know, he gets some intel and some research on me man, “I like this dude.” So it’s not just what you’ve done it’s “Hey, do I feel good when I’m with this guy?” It’s the same thing with Tim Draper. Well I mean success does allow you to start getting access. So, it’s not just about the money and the cars and your family and the vacation and all that’s great, all that’s really important. But you know, it’s what else can you do? What else can you learn? So, yeah, man, I really appreciate what you’re doing. You doing this… do you go live every night?

Justin Stoddart
I do. I actually go 8:30 in the morning, but just happened to catch you at this time.

Grant Cardone
So yeah, yeah, well done on what you’re doing and the contribution you’re making. Thank you for holding me accountable to come on and spend some time with you. When do you guys all get back together again.

Justin Stoddart
You know, I don’t think there’s anything on the on the schedule right now, but you better believe I’ll be having conversations with people. Let’s make that happen.

Grant Cardone
Good. Well, I love the company. I love the group I love just the people that were there were phenomenal. And, brother, keep on keep on keepin on man.

Justin Stoddart
Hey, I’m going to ask one, one last favor, the signature question of the show you’ve already answered, which is what does a guy like you do to continue to think bigger? The whole episodes been about that. You’re surrounding yourself with great people is anything else that you would add to that, things that you do to continue to expand your own possibilities? I feel like you’ve answered that but if there’s any last words that you have for that, I’d love to have you…

Grant Cardone
Look, you know, the people around you’re gonna… everybody wants to do better.

Justin Stoddart
Yeah.

Grant Cardone
Like, there’s nobody, I’ve never met anybody that didn’t want to do better. Now, when they go home and they get around the other people around them, then something changes. The people that you’re surrounded by, even loved ones, people are confused today. People are… your wife, your husband, your kids, your mom, your dad, uncles and aunts, there’s a lot of people suffering out there with the wrong information.

Justin Stoddart
Yeah.

Grant Cardone
If you have the right information you’d be doing well. So I am extremely selective about where I get my information today. I want to know, if I, look, I will be in a room with a crook, I just need to know he is. Like, I’m not gonna, I’m not gonna count anybody out. I’ll always give somebody a second chance, but you need to keep both eyes open and know you know when your uncle’s giving you advice about debt. “Don’t go into debt, don’t go into debt, don’t borrow money.” “Really why? Why are you telling me that man?” “Oh well…” and then the story comes out… “I borrowed money on a business and on my house and for a boat and I busted out and all debt is bad debt now.”

Grant Cardone
Okay, well good. So now you know that that guy is giving you the information… by the way he could end up with a TV show, he could be your uncle… he could end up with a TV show and educate millions and millions of people not to borrow money. You got people on TV right now giving advice on marriages that have never been married man. People that are given advice on weight loss that have been overweight their whole life, like not part of their life, their entire life. People, you got psychologists that have written books that committed suicide and the some of this stuff is in the colleges like we’re reading this is the truth and the reality is it did not produce great products. So when I hear a guy talking to me about sales that I know stole hundreds of millions of dollars, I don’t even want to have a conversation.

Grant Cardone
I’m like “Dude that ain’t sales.” Like let’s get off this topic. That is trickery. That’s conning people. I’m not, that’s not my game. So if my deal is, so you know, you know what I’m saying? Like you got to know where the data is coming from and do enough research on people to find out okay, “Who is this? Why is this person telling me this?” Like not buying a house. I tell people do not buy a house. You could sell a house, but there’s no reason for you to own one. And some people want to buy a house, okay? I like that they want to own a home, they want to settle down. Good, let those people buy homes. Buy real estate that pays you. Sell real estate that pays you and buy and take the money and buy real estate where people rent because it’s just a better deal than one single family house. Yeah, so why do I, you know people should should say, “Why is he telling me that?”

Grant Cardone
Well, because I made a lot of money doing that. I know, it’s good for people. It’s the only reason I’m telling people that

Justin Stoddart
That’s a good distinction that you made, you should buy real estate, but just be sure that that real estate pays you.

Grant Cardone
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody should own real estate. People should… real estate should be their their biggest asset, but it’s an asset when it pays you. The deal is to have cash flow. So that’s why… the reason I’m saying all that is to say find out why someone’s so passionate about what they’re talking about because their passion can be perverted. It could be a stuck weird, weird deal, right? Like, trying to solve this old problem that never got this guy done. And so that’s why it’s really really important for people to study who their studying.

Justin Stoddart
I love it. Grant this has been amazing, my friend I really appreciate you doing this. It’s meant a lot to me to my audience. This won’t be the last time and I’m looking for to bring a big value to you in return for years to come because you’ve done that for me. So my final request…

Grant Cardone
If your audience wants to hook up with that mentoring program its GrantCardone.com/mentor

Justin Stoddart
Mentor.

Justin Stoddart
My final request for everybody listening, which Grant has made this really easy for all of us, are three simple words, you hear me say it every time. GO THINK BIGGER. Thank you Grant. It’s been a total pleasure brother.

Grant Cardone
You got it. Be great man. Thank you.

Justin Stoddart
Thank you. Thanks, everybody.

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